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Should Australia reintroduce routine infant circumcision to reduce HIV rates?
January 14th, 2009 by Col

Dr Alex Wodak is the director of the Alcohol and Drug Service at St Vincent’s Hospital in Sydney. He’s a medical practitioner.

He published an opinion piece in The Australian recently, entitled “Circumcision can curb HIV rates” (the title may be the choice of the editorial team). According to the biographical extract on the Service’s website, he works on a harm minimisation basis (which is accepted to be the most useful way of working in this area). I’m assuming, therefore, that’s where he’s coming from in this article. In my entry, indented text and text inside “quotes” are quotations from Dr Wodak’s article.

Dr Wodak’s thesis is this (excerpted from the article):

Reducing the spread of HIV among non drug-using men and women around the world has been particularly difficult. Few have changed their sexual behaviour (including using condoms when having sex with casual partners).

Compelling evidence now shows that male circumcision, surgical removal of the foreskin of the penis, can substantially reduce heterosexual HIV spread. However, the rate of infant male circumcision in Australia may be as low as 20 per cent.

Australia should start trying to increase the rate of infant male circumcision to reduce heterosexual HIV spread in future decades.

Dr Wodak agrees that the question is difficult and controversial.

Dr Wodak asserts that the evidence regarding the protective benefit of circumcision in heterosexual men is clear, but notes that the evidence regarding benefit for gay men is less clear. He suggests that…

Male circumcision has many other benefits apart from reducing HIV. These benefits may include reducing some sexually transmitted infections (including syphilis, herpes simplex type 2 and chlamydia), urinary tract infections, penile cancer, prostate cancer and cervical cancer in female partners.

Dr Wodak goes on to suggest that:

  • “…we have sufficient information now on both HIV and general grounds to amply justify revising the information provided to young parents about infant male circumcision”;
  • the information supplied at the moment is biased and not objective;
  • the “substantial” obstacles to infant circumcision in public hospitals should be removed;
  • the Medicare rebates for circumcision be revised (presumably up) to “… reduce the current powerful financial disincentives to infant male circumcision”;
  • Australia should aim for a return to the high rates of infant circumcision that existed decades ago;
  • The “… technology of infant male circumcision has improved considerably in recent decades”.

Dr Wodak’s desire to work towards maintaining low HIV infection rates in Australia is, of course, laudable. His raising of the question is fair, coming as he does from his medical and ideological background. I would take issue with some of his assumptions, which I expect are based on recently reported studies, and most certainly with his conclusions and recommendations, which I think are misguided and unsound.

Dr Wodak makes the following statement:

There are always possible risks, and a particular concern here would be ‘‘risk compensation’’ — that is, gay circumcised men feeling safer and thus abandoning condoms and other hard-won safer sex strategies.

I’m not sure why only gay circumcised men would adopt “risk compensation” strategies – heterosexual men are also likely to do the same, I would have thought. The message to circumcised men is becoming stronger through this type of discourse: “You are safe”. This may lead to some really undesirable and unsafe behaviours, which in the context of HIV means death.

The evidence supporting Dr Wodak’s assertions is not as clear cut as it might appear. The studies he alludes to are open to criticisms on several grounds. His assertions about other benefits (reduction in rates of STIs, for example) are also open to debate or refutation. The assertion regarding reduction of risk for prostate cancer, for example, is based on studies that have been contradicted by other studies. The fact is, that almost all of the benefits claimed for circumcision are based on results of studies that can be critiqued for methodological or other reasons. We’re at the moment in a ‘battle-of-the-studies’ situation. The evidence is simply not clear enough to make definitive recommendations of the sort that Dr Wodak advances in his article.

The information provided to parents to which Dr Wodak refers presumably includes material such as the Royal Australian College of Physicians policy statement (which I note is under review). I don’t believe this statement is biased – I think it is based on the medical evidence available. The College is clear – “there is no medical indication for routine neonatal circumcision” (RACP).

Until there is clear benefit and utility, and until it is higher than other interventions (condom use, for example), then suggesting a poor preventative is at best misguided. I fear for those who will be lulled into a false sense of security, and for their sexual partners, and I see no reason why another generation of boys should be mutilated for such spurious reasons.

Edit: There is a much more useful article now available, by John Murray, an epidemiologist. Murray closes his article with this comment:

… although there is no room for complacency about the HIV epidemic in any country, male circumcision of newborns will have little impact on HIV risk in Australia. Male circumcision of infants may be considered on a number of grounds, but protection from HIV should not be one of them.

There is analysis of both commentaries available at the Circumstitions website and the Circumcision and HIV website.

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  • Shay
    John
    I'm afraid science is going to let you down and prove against your argument. Trends change all the time. We need to promote safe sex to avoid spreading disease. The fact of the matter is that Circumcision is a matter of human rights! No one may ever take a scalpel to my son for no reason whatsoever. And to me, there is never a good enough reason to circumcise. I will teach my son clean habits and trust in him that he will make wise decisions. To mutilate your children because you already have condemned them to be promiscuous or unwise is a very sad thing.
  • john glazebrook
    Cthornby makes gross assumptions about peoples's sexual behaviour which favor his or her argument I did not comment this area

    Mate, you either carry the bug AND transmit it or you don't !!!
    Its not all that complicated

    Unfortunately, and sadly, it is the women in our society who are now suffering because of the uninformed and misguided policies of the majority of the medical profession with respect to circumcision in Australia over the past 20 to 30 years

    The parents' right to decide what is best for their child has been taken away from them and WE WANT IT BACK !!!

    More than 400 scientific papers on the preventative health benefits
    of circumcision have been published over the last 10 years
    Is that not sufficient ?

    The bad news for the anti circs is that the science is not going to
    go away and will keep on coming ! No amount of highly subjective and emotional argument will be able to counter the scientific facts I refer you to the The Communicable Disease Centre's publication in Feb 2008 on Male Circumcision
  • Dear John

    Thank you once again for your comment. However, once again, it contains errors, assertions and inaccuracies. I wasn't highly subjective or emotional in my response to you, but your response to either my comment or the post was both. What it comes down to, I believe, is that the science is still not good enough to say whether or not circumcision of infants will result in the prevention of HIV infections. Some studies of men in Africa have shown that circumcision of adults appears to have a small protective benefit. What we know is that science is not always generalisable.

    On your assertion: "The parents' right to decide what is best for their child has been taken away from them and WE WANT IT BACK !!!" - I'm not sure what you're referring to. As far as I know you're still able to consent to elective circumcision of any son you might have. You need to find a doctor who will perform the procedure, but that's up to you, as is paying for it - it is elective surgery, after all.

    Colin
  • Mark
    cthornby

    Is the only one making any sense in this debate. I am very glad my parent's didn't decide to get myself snipped. There is no stable evidence to back up the HIV "myth". For anyone who doesn't know, circumcision was introduced to prevent masturbation. A handful of "sick" people have been trying to promote male genital mutilation ever since.

    These people try to make up and promote bogus claims to try to increase the rate of such a barbaric ritual. Another thing what is it about the claim "cosmetic surgery"? Is your son going to grow up to be a nudest?

    There are even numerous cases of when the mutilation has been botched and the parents have had to bring their new "daughter" home instead of their son. Even much worse the death of their son due to complications.

    This information can be found in a matter of minutes through any search.

    I would like to hear back from anyone who thinks differently.
  • john Glazebrook
    SCIENCE now has the technology to determine which viruses and bacteria are present on the penis how many and their EXACT location This why the foreskin is in so much trouble The truth has finally been revealed !!!

    See the recent Editorial in the April 25 in the New England J of Medicine for more

    Science evidence is by definition objective and reproducible AND NOT highly emotional subjective nonsense as propogated by the anti circs
  • Thank you for your comment, John.

    I assume you mean the citation in New Engl J Med. 2009 Mar 26:360(13):1349:51, which is a comment on New Engl J Med. 2009 Mar 26:360(13):1298:309.

    Doing a rapid Google on you leads me to think you're a scientist, and I think you're right to say that scientific evidence is objective and reproducible. My issue with the findings in these studies is whether they're reproducible, generalisable, and whether the health advice is good enough to suggest to people that they rely on circumcision as a preventative for HIV and STDs, because this is the message people will get. Condoms will get ditched, and people will assume that circumcision protects them: if it does (and this is the reproducible and generalisable bit - we don't know yet, because the sample isn't large enough), it only has a 50-60% reduction of risk compared to being uncircumcised. Now, this is a good reduction if we're talking about something ubiquitous - HPV for example (though the vaccines for HPV give much better protection). It is a poor reduction if we're talking about something life-threatening, like HIV. Will you, John, take responsibility for those men who ditch condoms and rely on circumcision based on your advice, and become seropositive for HIV? Will you take responsibility for their sexual partners and children? I don't mean to be emotive, but this is what it comes down to. You know, presumably about numbers needed to treat and relative risk reductions - the numbers are just not there. If circumcision was such a terrific preventative for STDs we would not have seen the large-scale problems with them in the '60s, '70s and '80s, and would not have seen the rapid spread of HIV in the population of gay men in the US - an overwhelmingly circumcised population.

    When we talk about sex, and how STDs spread, we're not simply talking about viruses or bacterium. We're talking about people and behaviours - that's what ultimately prevents STDs: people making good choices about their behaviours.

    Anyway - thanks. I realise we don't agree, but I thank you for your contribution.
  • Thanks for your comment, Dingo.

    I don't agree with your conclusions, because I think they're based on faulty evidence and reasoning, but you're entitled to them. I'm glad you're happy with your circumcision. There are lots of reasons why someone might choose to be circumcised, but preventing HIV and STDs aren't valid reasons, because if there is any preventative effect, it is quite weak. Use of a condom is far, far superior. Relying on circumcision can lead to lots of issues...

    Col
  • Dingo
    I agree with this article. I think as humans we now know what is better for us, a simple snip can prevent many things. We are entering a generaton which is mainly uncircumcised and it is evident, as HIV rates are increasng in Australia. Eastern Europe has the highest levels of HIV/AIDS since circumcision is seen as a Muslim/Jewish tradition, where in the Western European part circumcision is not common but more accepted. North Africa has lower levels (IN the world) of HIV/AIDS than in Sub-Saharan Africa, Islam and circumcision have much to do with this. In the USA, the majority of the population with HIV/AIDS are foreigners where circumcision is not the norm, and black women. Hispanics have the highest STD levels and they have the lowest male circumcision rates, followed by blacks. Whites in America and Canada have the highest Circumcision rates, especially in the Middle and Upper Classes, as well as those of Upper Classes in Britain and most of Western Europe.
    It seems like Oz has been going behind, but finally relizing we have made a mistake by not circumcising and BANNING the procedure for those that chose to hae it done for the well being of their children. Not fair! Bring back circumcision for public hospitals and make insurance pay for it. I can't believe Australia has done this, it is time to bring back cleanliness to our country. It's a fast, painless snip, I speak from experience! I chse to have it done at age 20 (I'm 23 now) and it's the best choice I've made in my life. I don't have less sensitivity, it's all there, the only difference in sex I see is that I last longer than before. My glans appears to have "plumped", so it's bigger from not being supressed by the foreskin. I feel FREE! It's beautiful, and I highly recommend it. My partners enjoy it more than their past uncirced partners. But this is just my story, we don't all have the same story. I for one, do not miss my foreskin, they can use it to help people with burned injuries in their bodies!
  • Hi Mark. Thanks for your comment, which I endorse wholeheartedly. It seems to me that we're moving into the realms of moral panic, where uncircumcision suddenly, once again, assumes the status of being unclean and potentially (or actually) destructive.

    Col
  • I'm tired of people trying to defend genital mutilation.

    HIV doesn't infect people randomly. Circumcision can only possibly help men who have unsafe sex with HIV+ partners, so why this bizarre obsession with genital surgery when we know that ABC works better than circumcision ever could? (ABC=Abstinence, Being Faithful, Condoms).

    The studies which allegedly show a reduction in HIV among circumcised men are highly questionable. Not one of them was finished, despite the protective affect appearing to decline well below the oft-reported 65%, and several of the subjects disappeared. The fact that one study described circumcision as "equivalent" to a "vaccine of high efficacy" seems to show clear bias. They appear to have been seeking a certain result. One has to wonder how many of the people promoting circumcision in Africa are themselves circumcised. Many of them have been promoting circumcision for years for a variety of different reasons.

    Other epidemiological studies have shown no correlation between HIV and circumcision, but rather with the numbers of sex workers, or the prevalence of "dry sex".

    The two continents with the highest rates of AIDS are the same two continents with the highest rates of male circumcision. Rwanda has almost double the rate of HIV in circumcised men than intact men, yet they've just started a nationwide circumcision campaign. Other countries where circumcised men are *more* likely to be HIV+ are Cameroon, Ghana, Lesotho, Malawi, and Tanzania. Something is very wrong here. These people aren't interested in fighting HIV, but in promoting circumcision (or sometimes anything-but-condoms), and their actions will cost lives.

    Circumcised male virgins are more likely to be HIV+ than intact male virgins, as the operation sometimes infects men.

    The latest news is that circumcised HIV+ men are more likely to transmit the virus to women than intact HIV+ men (even after the healing period is over). Eight additional women appear to have been infected during that study, solely because their husbands were circumcised.

    Female circumcision seems to protect against HIV too btw, but we wouldn't investigate cutting off women's labia, and then start promoting that.

    Whose body is it anyway? Shouldn't they have some say in whether or not part of their genitals are cut off?
  • Fred Rhodes
    All those studies are impossible speculations designed to justify a religious theology. We are suposed to learn how to live healthy life styles and proper care of our bodies. Circumcision goes against logic, Nature and creation. You must not punish the child for the sins of the father because he will come back and distroy you. There will be consequences for forcing infant sexual trauma on society just as there always has been, but this time it will be wource because we have nuclear technology.
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